A once in a lifetime opportunity to sail on an F50! I sold mine (one of the above) and have bought a used Mach2. Just to show what other foilers are up against, the F101 was featured on mainstream British broadcasting news (BBC). I see the F101 as being more like the A than a Moth or Waszp. Would love a few more reviews to read!! The first public comment about the boat was in November and the official launch was in March this year and first deliveries were last month. Has anyone fitted an adjustable wand for club sailing (not class legal but why not when it doesn't matter)? Amac seems to have benefited from a  "first to market" advantage, plus the association with his past work. The WASZP enters its third season with a few bangs: Boat n° 700 came out of the line in November of 2018, a testament to the incredible worldwide success. Championship Leader Adam Raeburn-James. Take me as an example. I wonder if it were to be released today, whether it would stack up against other offerings. How much breeze does it take for foiling? Some of the most fun I've had sailing whilst also being not that great. The boat is fine left on its side with the wing bar on the seabed and only some of the weight taken by buoyancy - probably waste deep water. if I build another boat, I will consider using one of them as the base to avoid having to build a new hull. Although it is very forgiving, nothing changes physics and if you have the weight in the wrong place the boat simply continues climbing and the foils come out and you crash. This boat has been sailed lots over the past 6 months, giving rides to friends, etc. One of the things that I find most appealing about the UFO is that it's probably a better trainer for learning to foil. It's not just you. New big main foil looks quite a bit bigger. It's just that considering what appeared to be very steady conditions and small waves, it appeared to be crashing a bit, and given higher winds it would seem reasonable that the crashes would end up worse. Getting a number of entries already at this early stage, http://www.waszp.com/blog/waszp-games-entries, https://www.facebook.com/groups/1207558662668168/. The F101 was launched more then 4 years ago, it should have momentum by now. Once you master foiling in the UFO, some may find that they're ready for the next step, which could be a Moth. Minimum weight in the WASZP rules is TBA but it's probably what, 45kg? So big guys who don't want to race IMHO could seriously think about getting the big waszp mainfoil. I've thought about rigging up a stake with small block and retrieval line so I could pull the trolley up onto the beach from the water while solo. Those that can quickly build an international customer base will probably do better in the long run, especially if they can get an events circuit going with World Sailing recognition etc. Also, if that's so I need to have a lot more savings in the bank for when my daughter reaches that age. Closest foiling racing in the world – The one-design nature provides the closest and most exciting foiling racing in the world! A friend of mine picked up a blade rider a few years ago, and though he has a solid skiff background, his fitness (or lack thereof) prevented him from getting long enough sessions in on the Moth to really get a hang of it; though he claims to have gotten it up on foils, no one I know ever saw it. To have a look around the WASZP, CLICK + DRAG whilst holding a mouse button. Killer boat, never even considered buying a moth as I have no interest in the arms race, happy to sacrifice speed for the 1D nature of the boat. There is no surprise that the Waszp has sold so many so fast. Starting with Moth flag • 1 Minuit delay between the two starts. Because of the nature of the event, sailors are not scored just on the fastest speed. Thanks Trovao! I would bet on it doing rather well in the next year or 2. Creating a brand and culture that takes sailing into the mainstream. Where I sail the launch/retrieve from a short concrete ramp was a mess, and light wind evenings with 7-9knots of wind and Moths foiling all around while Waszps were lowriding were the deciding factors. Sounding like there will be a solid Euro contingent heading to Perth in 2019 (hopefully nudge over 100 boats) next year and with timing for next years Europeans more in-line with the holiday period we could expect 100 boats there as well. Was an awesome week at the Euros, fantastic culture has been developed amongst the sailors and it has a real inclusive beach culture feel to it. That means it stays put when you take the trolley away but is easy to lift/drag into deeper water once the foils are down. The wasp was never meant to be a moth, it's a really bad moth. They’ve shipped around 400 boats in the first year of production and there are currently 3 listed on mothmart. I still believe boats would be better off with a bigger mainfoil to have better flying time, but I was surprised to see a couple of actual foiling tacks from the top guys; impressive! If you really want to lose your lunch, consider that boats built in Rhode Island, where we build UFOs, are 100% tax-exempt. If you really want to lose your lunch, consider that boats built in Rhode Island, where we build UFOs, are 100% tax-exempt. It is not much harder to foil gybe than a moth and takeoff at my weight (65kg) is pretty good. http://www.waszp.com/news. I gad watched the Foiling Week vids, but with other foilers I've seen the difference between the way they perform in vids on Garda, and the way they perform in normal conditions so I was cautious. the market will decide, but if it does survive, I would be very surprised if it was the only one in that part if the market. WASZP's Nest has 1,528 members. I blame age, although I do realise that there are ways around that. I'd think you need 9-10knots to fly the Waszp (not sure of the saline percentage in the Baltic...) at least as a beginner. I think those all still apply – if those things are important to you. With all the coverage, many would love to try foiling but the boats have been too hard. I've seen a couple of Wazps around, the sailors seem to be doing fine. There is also a feeling that you won't need to sail non stop just to be able to get around the course in most conditions.. I believe they have a pretty full order book, but what that really means, I have no idea! Upwind you should be doing around 10-12kt in 10kt of wind and around 15-17kt downwind. Also, if it's breezy I make sure to lay it over so the main will stay in the water and not get wind under it and flip it upright. Waszp tramps seem well engineered and optimized as of fabrication. We have some of SailGP's finest sailors ready to jump in the WASZP and go head to head with our very own WASZP community. Is that enough to sustain it? Unsure about long term ownership myself as I do find I prefer 2 man sailing to solo. The other thing is the A has stable racing fleets, a solid used marketplace and it isn't going anywhere. Sailing perpendicular to the wind angle, the WASZP’s sped toward their first mark at top speed with some epic close racing and tussles. Take your GPS, do sport session on the water, upload your data to this website and your are listed in the ranking. It's always interesting to hear it from someone who has sailed one and not involved in selling them. It was hard work but I managed it solo with a bit of grunt and swearing. Where would you be sailing out of? They'll want to make sure that in 6 months time it doesn't get boring and they decide to move onto the next $12k hobby. The concept was for a foiling platform that enables closer one-design racing, less complex rigging, affordable to all sailors while being accessible to a wider range of ages and weights. Super weird moving from being a multi sailor and not really a dinghy sailor (14' cats, F18's T-cats, 24' tri's and 32' cats) and keelboats. Sign up for a new account in our community. There's something wrong with the dates on that website. gps-waszp is a worldwide competition for speed addicts on the water. Is the bladder in the same "pocket" as the wing side tube, or in a dedicated pocket ? Adjustable length wand is the biggest one for me. At least it managed more interest here than it did in its own thread. 1st day was a glass out, 2nd day was marginal and 3/4th days glamours! The WASZP project was conceived in 2010 by Andrew McDougall, designer of the world beating Mach 2 foiling Moth. If you're going to upgrade a waszp just buy a Farking real moth! Paul McCombie. waszp The WASZP project was conceived in 2010 and put into production in June 2016 by Andrew McDougall, designer of the world beating Mach 2 foiling Moth. 2524. You can actually teach people to sail on one but it still gives enough of a thrill for even the most experienced sailors. The fastest speed we have seen at an event is still 26.1 knots set by New Zealander Nick Olsen at the Australian nationals. Grafham,queen Mary has about 15-20,Draycote and now rutland. http://www.waszp.com/blog/southern-hemisphere-2. Geography will also make a big difference to which boats end up being successful. Top GPS Speed Adam Raeburn-James . For a boat like this, having limited speeds seems to me to be a really good thing as people can concentrate on learning to sail/foil really well. Interesting. The first prototype wasn't built until last year. Disaster… I'll accept your version as I've no first hand knowledge. TBH that doesn't actually look any easier than a Moth. The boats which seem to be resold Quickly may well be older buyers who found out that they really were not agile enough for a wasp or a moth. There was nothing judgemental in that, just an observation that the business dynamics are different depending on where you're based. Moth's seem to be be $5k Bladeriders that everyone tells you to stay away from or $25K Mach 2's. If I were a heavy guy who does not race I would definitely go for the big foil though. Lift out speed is around 8kt boat speed and this is easy enough to get to in 8-9kt of wind. I looked at the assembly instructions and did not found the information. 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