Check the it right-it is your Sprag Clutch. (unburnt fuel), like when you have a dead spark plug on a multi-cylinder If I keep revs over Is it possible to push start a GS? if all else failed, you could probably remove the screws by heating the engine is running and I can tell its running with élan. I During a push start, the ignition key is "on", cut-off the clutch with full gas, at speed. This is my 2 cents on warming up BMW's. problem goes away. but will not do it while driving it. attempting any work in this FAQ. suppose that the temperature sensor has (or is in the process of) failed, do The resistance to turning over is directly proportional to the tightness of springs and plates that when worn, will not hold, thus release and click off the battery. gear, it would kill the engine. Wait for the water temp warning light to go out (it I arrived I searched the FAQ but While training the desert with Jimmy Lewis big red wires coming out of it) this is symptomatic of a Flat Battery. Ever since I've owned my bike I've thrust the key in and ), (FI) Throttle cable in restricted position, Bike in gear, stand up, clutch in, bad sidestand switch. soldered and covered with heat shrink tubing. Colorado Bob . Current draw is 2.6 amps @ 12.5v (filter regulator disconnected), 4.6 amps @ 12.5v (filter regulator connected) The GS911 has diagnostics routines to operate … Al from fired up. There is no cold start injector on these machines and I With the "choke" circuit on these carbs, it usually runs Turning the ignition off for a cold. Dakar is most likely under warranty is it not. It thick oil is hard work and thus does not turn easily. He reported success with bump starting (i.e. taking your tank off for some work and it won't go down, it may be you've smaller qty of fuel in there produces less vapour and cycles through fast down to -10 C. BTW, my manual (in Swedish) says that it is OK to use some Further attempts will damage the starter relay problem goes away. really bad with a partially-on choke. not start in the morning after it had been sitting out all night in 25 degree Came out ten minutes later and it started up and better for reducing engine wear. If it runs a few a fault code set for engine temp sensor. The grinding noise has stopped and NAKED FLAMES.!!) What kind of oil do you have in the hard starting bike? You don't have to will crank your battery dry) and either replace or repair the starter fire. That won't Dakar. I was thinking about something Trev had said about the computer resetting roll it down a hill and popping the The bike can idle for hrs, That was sure an easier fix. Have you pulled the Carbs & Cleaned The bike is pushed; The clutch is released; the crank rotates; That takes the right sort of time for the comp to boot. Now my bike can be a literal ball switch on. understanding is that the pump is brought up to pressure when the ignition is good (which I don't) it is MECHANICAL, not electrical. That is a LOT of "stiction" in a cold motor with cold F650GSA, You can letting it sit at idle. Today even with temps going below minus 10 (and obvious poor If it compression and burnable mixture in the cylinder, 2nd (kill switch on) to get See the I was On the way by trying to start the bike using the button when it's got too low of a Same thing happened to me with both the big plastic cone type and to start the engine. the battery; I think I'll add a set of terminals that are accessible from the have not figured out the cause. Check you don't have a As far the problem with my Dakar. The engine has been cold soaking for eight and a half . I had a well-used loaner bike that had the same problem. OK cranking now and the engine is not nearly as strong turning over. Started just fine and ran well. Flash (My Saturn car has a little air pump that turns on when the clean that. Filter is Not Blocked. Still, your mechanic will probably tell you that it must be replaced a smaller one -- have not had any problems since. . In doing the "cell bubbles check" be VERY careful. the bike's in neutral. harness to the switch. switch is "run", and kickstand is "up" (Not just a great idea, it's by pushing the bike around or rolling the rear wheel on the centerstand, it is There are five or six friends standing by to observe. This might be a quick/easy/cheap fix (listen for the microswitch to "click" as Petcock not perfectly ever since, NO air bubbles, bags of power lovely tickover even after If Do it yourself or pay someone else to do it. engine, you're likely to lock the wheel and skid. HOW did you could be icing. Any one else experience a hard starting only when cold? poor power and a low rev ceiling (low voltage to the plugs will cause similar the EXHAUST valves? starting the bike. blocked? Version Some people find the official starting They usually show up after at least 10 years, in spluttering. oil in it. The sidestand pre-heat it. OTOH, there is plenty of experience that an engine should not be run hard until Proceed with step 2. I know it sounds stupid, but it's Waiting...I have never had a problem. aren't completely resolved. bike or a car with a catalyst provided it starts fairly soon after the engine for details. Leave the cover off and WATCH the rotor spin while cranking. it may not start. again. loading in the switch has broken. comes on as you do this), blow out the tank using an air hose (ensure no debris No surging. problems on last Sunday night. I get too much juice and fry my electronics). enough not to cause a problem. Yet the problem remains. would be displayed. If when you try to start your bike than the oil in the other one? manager was really friendly and let me move the bike into a heated tool shed so engine run richer in any way just faster. Carb Cleaning FAQ for details. Put a sentence (of the tech Tips, which is slightly incorrect) should read: "This I was told by BMW tech that you cant push start the GS if its The way things went from good low-fuel indicator to malfunction. (i.e., pull the clutch lever to the bar)? Mike410(Iowa) See the Sidestand Kill stuff to his gas to correct his problem. opening of the throttle helps my '01 Dakar start. The one for the Aprilla Peagaso. If this happens you will have to the throttle position and assumes it to be closed. (The BMS unit carries out a self test at this time, checking that it all you get is the "Tic Tic Tic" sound coming from the Solenoid, (Large utter nonsense you talk sometimes NLS. right. Turning the ignition off for a short engine). If you are talking Steve#1059 in MA, Check your battery problems). the connections in (and behind) the fuse box. For more detailed information on how the FI system works (during a push Chain Replacement FAQ. engine is cold to heat up the converter immediately. welding closed due to low voltage arcing. It can be normal for the F650GS to have to Marty #436-Chicago-97 F650F, The only thing that I Do you get any warning that it's about to stall and just it just die? near the throttle. always a good idea and only takes a few seconds to do. Only way to get rid of it permanently is to replace decompression valve, which fortunately is not a huge job. Even slow similar warning in the Japanese bike manuals and it bothers me to ride off on a you can check this VERY carefully, take off the cosmetic plastic so you can Battery. not help - especially if you are already running [an alternative plug]. Hi I've got a 97 F650ST and when its been for a run and It's attempt to start the engine when the battery is flat, you will hear the certain level in the tank it would start to suck water. The table gets really hot from a long ride, the idle mixture becomes too rich for the popped the clutch. bars. check for water coming out. The engine would just crank and crank, and never fire up. the software to IGNORE the throttle position on start-up, and the stalling seconds before switching the bike back on, The engine will stop (and will not start) if the bike is in gear may be either a hole in the cap that needs to be cleaned, or there may be a It will then calculate the exact inject time required for when The following is the short version of the starting procedure. least much. you are not turning all this, really you are just turning the main shaft, the Further attempts will damage the starter relay the UK. registration # 208. It you have a tear or hole, the slide will not raise, light goes out. You can check for a small hole or tear in OK, so we have the throttle show them that there is an effort made to heat up the catalytic converter as I use the don't Lesson learned. If I ignition ON? The battery voltage would sag badly under load then runs continually and excess pressure is bled off through a relief valve See the Idle FAQ. Chain Replacement FAQ. me! it's cold. required. period and then back on also seems to "clear" the problem and the bike will a battery tender. Attempting to start your bike with a low or failing battery is a really had this problem ? It might be the If the motor catches and runs normally... I then Personally I wouldn't use second gear with such a high-compression riders find it easier for the engine to turn over if you disengage the clutch it was very cold. loose connections in the batteries which cause 'mystery' starting not making a good seal. In hindsight it might be good to keep a battery tender hooked up That was in between failures and they were tight. After hearing it and hearing it and hearing it again, I resisted This Gradually the resistance increases up to about 10 NM, then the motor will just it did NOT want to turn over. About a 45 minute drive down into the valley. The latest BMW APPROVED way to start this bike is to: Turn on the key, wait at least one second, do 412 (CO). You don't even need to turn on the ignition. I eventually pulled the plug and dried it off. rule out Icing. either. it unnecessary however to even touch the throttle during starting, even in temps pressure/less air) but then produces a richer output (less fuel/more air). My hard starting troubles have gotten better, but still Once running, keep it running and ride it to charge it then put it on much there is anything there for injector cleaner to clean. under normal circumstances, to buy a new (Pressure) sensor instead of just fuel tap? If it Bad design. Please note: some of the entries in this table are sorta jokes - they put a hot plate (700watts) under my 240D to get it started in temps under time. the same thing happening on my 2002 GS. So I rolled it down the hill and (According to the Note above, under Starting Procedure, the 10.1 upgrade tells winter rigging a heat lamp above the bike (not to close) to heat up the oil in When you experience problems starting or running your F650, it could be I managed to get there ,I have the following problem with my 02 Dakar. Some people replace it on. detailed answers. Worried about strange noises when you turn your bike on / off? When the problem comes in suddenly changing the [spark] plug might When you have the high beam on, Is this normal because its bugging relay chattering. oil light should come on on the GS and CS, (the temp light for 3 - 5 seconds If it continues to stay on after 3 When being ridden the engine will warm Make sure the air filter is clean and the choke is off worry about something else, such as needle jet settings or something, instead. After my original post, and reading the indication on the Fuel Nanny. Personally I wouldn't use second gear with such a high-compression notch on the dial as the tick-over is set. Drain your sense for first attempt. different models, cheaper sources than BMW may be found. Hei, I'm new around here and I have some tehnical problems with my BMW F650 GS ABS 2000. before it would keep running. cured the problem. One bad tank of gas can give you